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JohnnyG
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"Dogs in LL books and stories"
 
   I think LL had a deep respect for the relationship between man and dog. This was expressed in THE HAUNTED MESA and the quiet dignity he gave the dog Sam in HONDO Can anyone think of any other dogs that featured prominently in a LL book or story? By the way, one of the few survivers of the Little Big Horn was a large whit bulldog Custer owned. He was sighted but would never go near humans again after the battle. In those days, bulldogs were much more ahtletic than today, knda like larger pitbulls.


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DocKaty
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1. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   I cannot think of any other dogs off hand. However, one of his sayings that I always remembered was "The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on." To me it means that you may be criticized at times in your life, but put it behind you and press on with what you believe is the right path for you. Don't let people's opinions deter you from what you believe is right.There will always be those who make themselves feel more important by belittling others.

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Freeman
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2. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   I recently read one LL novel where the main character was in charge of a pack of hounds that he used to control predators (mountain lions) that were killing the cattle. Can't remember the name of the character or the book. Please refresh my memory.


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3. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   Nell Trelawney had a big dog named Neb in Treasure Mountain.

Tell: "What do you feed him? A calf a day?"

Nell: "He rustles his own grub. Maybe he eats people. I wouldn't know. He goes off in the woods now and again, and when he comes back he's licking his chops."

I wouldn't say Neb was featured prominently, but he was a memorable dog and since I'm sort of on a Treasure Mountain kick right now that's what came to mind.

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ChrisEngland
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4. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   I remember Beau once saying that LL liked dogs, and had them as pets. I think he said that one pet beagle of his lived to be 20 years old! Does my memory serve me well Beau?


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Longrifle Joe
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5. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-27-12 AT 08:33 AM (Pacific Time)
 
Perhaps the most memorable dog in LL's stories was Hondo's companion which he would not feed because it would make the dog "dependent". He had to fend for himself when it came to food.

Also, in many of LL's stories, an occasional reference was made to the town dog lazily lying in the sun on a porch or walkway and who would "give a brief wag of the tail to passers by as if to signal that he wouldn't bother them if they'd just pass him by and not try to make him move".

One story had the main character being followed by what he thought was a wolf but ultimately it was revealed that the wolflike dog actually had a collar which he had outgrown and it was choking him severely. Several stories had
"lion hunters" which were hired by ranchers to get rid of the predators preying on their cattle. They often had dogs to help in their hunting.

LRJ

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Tennessee Dave
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6. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   Not a dog, but that pet horse, Big Red, that the kids were adored by in 'Down The Long Hills'. I loved that story!

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7. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-27-12 AT 10:30 PM (Pacific Time)
 
Welcome to the LL Forum JohnnyG...if so, and the white or yellow Bulldog you mentioned survived Little Bighorn, then that is news to me since I thought that a horse was the only living survivor representative of the bloody fight; a red 15 hands high gelding named Comanche found wounded 7 times over and near death by a river 2 days afterward; which survived June 25, 1876 Custer's Massacre at the Little Bighorn otherwise known by a Cheyenne and Lakota Sioux Indian's name aka "Battle of the Greasy Grass"
I remember some details from reading that book about this heroic tough "clayback" red colored bay gelding horse ofttimes called a buckskin dun.
The time I read it was when I was a young dude back in the early 70's written by Anthony Amaral in 1961.
i swear it was rounded up on the Plains and sold to the 7th Cavalry where Captain Myles Keogh picked it out as his mount; it was a part Morgan part wild Mustang who got its name via a widely accepted story on September 13, 1868 Captain Keogh was involved in a skirmish with a band of Comanche Indians. During the fight the horse was wounded by an arrow in the right hind quarter. The arrow was later removed, and the wound healed. After the battle, a trooper who witnessed the incident claimed that when the arrow struck, the horse "yelled just like a Comanche"
I suppose there were a few other horses from the 7th cavalry found alive after the battle but I do remember this brave horse Comanche being hailed as the only survivor for some reason.
I looked up information on the bulldog, and yes indeed you are correctamundo as several witness at the time stated the dog suffered from fear due to trauma at battle and would not come near human contact ever again


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JohnnyG
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8. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   Yes, the yellow or white bulldog with Custer was almost certainly a pitbull or what would today be called an American Bulldog. Both of these breeds are very rugged and were favored by fighting men. I have owned both, and they are great dogs. Don't believe that nonsense you read about pitbulls. A dog is what his owner brings him up to be.


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TOM
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9. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-02-12 AT 05:48 PM (Pacific Time)
 
I read a book several years ago about that horse (you got me to thinking about it, so I dug through my boxes of books and located it) It is titled "Comanche of the Seventh" by Margaret Leighton. I might have to give it another read soon.

TOM


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10. "RE: Dogs in LL books and stories"
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   Do so TOM and look it over there's something that grips you about how special a creature that 1/2 mustang 1/2 Morgan clayback buckskin dun horse was
I loved the rendition and can only picture the jocularity when told of the story how he got his name from the soldier who saw and heard the horse "scream like a Comanche" when an arrow stuck him in the rear end during a battle
Both the love for this horse from Captain Myles Keogh and a subsequent handler Sergeant Gustave Korn who took care of Comanche and nursed him back to health until his passing away in 1890 is another part of the story I liked
Comanche was hailed as the only living survivor of the Little Bighorn returned back to the Military
I think the yellowish-white bulldog's name was Tuck


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