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"Each of us must find wisdom in his own way. Mine is one way, yours another. Perhaps we each need more of what the other knows." . . . The Lonely Men
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Longrifle Joe
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05-05-12, 06:48 AM (Pacific Time) |
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2. "RE: A real western man - Frank Eato"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-05-12 AT 06:50 AM (Pacific Time) I completely enjoyed reading this thread about "Pistol "Pete". It sounds mostly authentic to me because some of the things I read reminded me of a couple of old timers from very close to the same era (my dad and my uncle). Both of them were born in the 1880's and had similar views.I have tried the flipping a coin and shooting it before it hits the ground trick many times. My best luck was by tossing a coffee can into the air and drawing and shooting it. Elmer Keith was able to toss something similar and hit it 5 or 6 times with a DA Revolver. Once I managed 3 hits with a DA Ruger Revolver but only that one time. I managed 2 hits quite often and a one hit was almost a guarantee. Keith could do it with high velocity handloads from his S&W .44 special---those old-timers were amazing. I did all my aerial shooting with .357/38 Revolvers and lighter handloads. This Pistol Pete would have been someone I would have wanted to "ride the river" with. Thanks for a very interesting thread. LRJ Longrifle Joe |
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A real western man - Frank Eaton [View All],
DocKaty, 05:00 PM, 05-04-12, (0)
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Freeman, 05-04-12, 07:01 PM, (1)
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Longrifle Joe, 05-05-12, 06:48 AM, (2)
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Longrifle Joe
Member since 9-6-05
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05-05-12, 06:48 AM (Pacific Time) |
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2. "RE: A real western man - Frank Eato"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-05-12 AT 06:50 AM (Pacific Time) I completely enjoyed reading this thread about "Pistol "Pete". It sounds mostly authentic to me because some of the things I read reminded me of a couple of old timers from very close to the same era (my dad and my uncle). Both of them were born in the 1880's and had similar views.I have tried the flipping a coin and shooting it before it hits the ground trick many times. My best luck was by tossing a coffee can into the air and drawing and shooting it. Elmer Keith was able to toss something similar and hit it 5 or 6 times with a DA Revolver. Once I managed 3 hits with a DA Ruger Revolver but only that one time. I managed 2 hits quite often and a one hit was almost a guarantee. Keith could do it with high velocity handloads from his S&W .44 special---those old-timers were amazing. I did all my aerial shooting with .357/38 Revolvers and lighter handloads. This Pistol Pete would have been someone I would have wanted to "ride the river" with. Thanks for a very interesting thread. LRJ Longrifle Joe |
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ChrisEngland
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05-05-12, 10:18 AM (Pacific Time) |
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3. "Another Western Man, Al Sieber"
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Thanks for the fascinating info DocKaty! When I think of Western men another name comes to mind - Al Sieber. Although he was born in Baden, Germany (in 1843) I don't think this detracts from his Western status. He came to the United States with his mother and siblings in 1848 or 49, grew up in Pennsylvania and Minnesota, and served in the 1st Minnesota Volunteer Infantry during the Civil War, being severely wounded at Gettysburg. After the War he prospected in California, Nevada and Arizona. He was hired as Chief of Scouts by General George Crook in 1871, and played that role for most of the Apache Wars, seeing much action. When Crook pursued the Apaches into the Sierra Madre in 1883 Sieber was there, and served as mentor to young Tom Horn. He was in the field when Geronimo surrendered to Lt Charles Gatewood in 1886. In 1887 he was shot while attempting to quell a reservation outbreak. He was dissatisfied with the unjustified treatment of the Apaches after the cessation of hostilities, and returned to prospecting in 1891. Sieber was killed in a construction accident in 1907 at the San Carlos Apache reservation, and was buried with military honours in Globe, Arizona. I can recommend Dan L Thrapp's biography 'Al Sieber, Chief of Scouts', and the novel 'The Apache Kid' by Clay Fisher, which features Sieber. I have always thought of him as a true Western man. C |
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Tennessee Dave
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05-05-12, 02:16 PM (Pacific Time) |
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4. "RE: A real western man - Frank Eato"
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Well that was a humdinger of a story! Thanks! To read about a REAL bigger-than-life western person is a true treat. There is a picture of Pistol Pete on Wikipedia. Now i see that the old time picture actors took their look from the real thing. Or he took it from them.LOL But, either way, I believe that he WAS wearing his pistol in the true fashion of an old west shootist. Tennessee Dave "Change is inevitable, growth is optional." Author unknown |
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