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Tennessee Dave
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10. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   But she wasn't having any of them!!!LOLL..... She wanted to strike a light and look at them, but he said "...we ain't lightin' no matches." They were waiting in the rocks, watching from the hilltop, for Lucky Ned Pepper(Robert Duvall)and his gang of cutthroats to arrive at the cabin so they could take them alive or shoot them down.
That is STILL one of my favorites movies!

OH! I almost forgot to mention that LL wrote about the travelers eating 'pemican'. And LL wrote that the Apaches left a bag of 'pinole' with Tell Sackett when they left him in 'The Sackett Brand', which I am re-reading now.

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Freeman
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1. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   One of LL's favorite expressions was, "He drank deeply of the clear, cold water, and drank again...but always upstream from his horse." And then there were the canned peaches which seemed to be plentiful.


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2. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   I've often pondered on the "cowboy diet" and how there seemed to be no health effects like we would have today.

However, they worked much more strenuosly than most of us, and tended to die sooner of other problems anyway.

They also didn't eat any processed food and most of their diet would be natural, 'organic' food.


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3. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-16-12 AT 03:19 AM (Pacific Time)
 
Oh yes, eggs, real thick fatty bacon,hashbrowns,toast with lots of butter and a cup of coffee to wash it down with aaaaaaaah.Water thats for bath time, lol.


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Hal Hall
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7. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   You might be interested in this web page: http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodpioneer.html#cowboy

It is the Food Timeline FAQ: a lot of interesting food info. There is more on "Cowboy Cooking" than the sample below


Cowboy cooking

How can you learn about "Cowboy Recipes" that were served by chuckwagons in the 19th Century American West? There are several books, Web sites, reenactor groups, and museums you can tap for authentic (and adapted) recipes as well as cooking techniques (Dutch Oven, for example). There is even an annual chuck wagon gathering where you can sample the fare for yourself. Are you writing a report for school? Working on a Boy Scout merit badge? Collecting details for a historic novel? Establishing a foodways program in a living history museum? The amount of information you need depends upon your project. The following sources will get you started:

Charles Goodnight & Oliver Loving (from Texas) are credited with *inventing* the chuckwagon in 1866 in order to accomodate the gustatory needs of American cowboys: "The nature of the cook's job required that he get up several hours earlier than the cowhands, so he worked longer hours with less sleep. When the outfit was on the move, he had to be at the next appointed camp and have a hot meal ready on time."

Cowboy coffee
Cowboy biscuits
Cowboy beans
jerky
Cowboy menus for K-12 teachers

Recommended reading--your local public librarian can help you find these:

Chuck Wagon Cookin': An authentic collection of roundup lore, cowboy humor and more than one hundred old-time recipes, Stella Hughes
...excellent source for modernized recipes
Cowboy Culture: A Saga of Five Centuries, David Dary
...food history and social details
Eating up the Santa Fe Trail, Sam'l P. Arnold
...original recipes with modern adaptations, history and lore
The Old West Baking Book, Lon Walters
...old-time recipes adapted for modern ovens (cowboys enjoyed biscuits on the trail, pies & cakes would have been baked back at the ranch)
Up the Trail from Texas, by J. Frank Dobie
...chapter titled "The Cook and his Chuckwagon" which explains what, how, when, where and why Cowboys ate the foods they did.

HH


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20. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   Thanks for the web site and all the info, Hal...very interesting and informative.
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-17-12 AT 06:41 AM (Pacific Time)
 
good one Mexbear

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4. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   "corn dogs" ?

I never heard of cowboys eating corn dogs in a western before.

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DocKaty
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5. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   Oooops, corn dogs? I meant corn dodgers.
I believe John Wayne in True Grit had a saddlebag full of them?

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Freeman
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6. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   I believe John Wayne had the corn dodgers in the movie Rooster Cogburn with Katherine Hepburn. We have something similar here in Louisiana called hush puppies. It is a ball of cornmeal mixed with egg and jalapenos and fried to a crisp--delicious. Usually served with fried catfish.


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8. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   And some of JW's corn dodgers had blood on them after a man was shot - as Mattie Ross observed - but he still ate them!

C


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10. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   But she wasn't having any of them!!!LOLL..... She wanted to strike a light and look at them, but he said "...we ain't lightin' no matches." They were waiting in the rocks, watching from the hilltop, for Lucky Ned Pepper(Robert Duvall)and his gang of cutthroats to arrive at the cabin so they could take them alive or shoot them down.
That is STILL one of my favorites movies!

OH! I almost forgot to mention that LL wrote about the travelers eating 'pemican'. And LL wrote that the Apaches left a bag of 'pinole' with Tell Sackett when they left him in 'The Sackett Brand', which I am re-reading now.

Tennessee Dave

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15. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-17-12 AT 06:57 AM (Pacific Time)
 

Happy Trails ...


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Phyllis
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17. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   Chris...I'm probably the only one thinking this, but ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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DocKaty
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18. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   Tastes like ketchup??

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Freeman
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11. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   DocKaty was right. The movie was True Grit and not Rooster Cogburn.


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Phyllis
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13. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   Ok, I give...have read about then often, but what were they??

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Phyllis
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14. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-17-12 AT 06:47 AM (Pacific Time)
 
Silly me...just googled it...answered my own question

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16. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   One explanation:

A corndodger, or just dodger, is a ball of cornmeal (and sometimes flour), water (or milk), oil (or lard) and usually sugar. This is deep fried (like a hushpuppy), or baked. They are also known as Johnny Cakes and seem to come out of the Colonial Era.

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19. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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   If I remember right Elmer Kelton's characters drank a lot of tomato (sp) juice


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