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ChrisEngland
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22. "RE: Other Authors"
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   I don't mind violence if it is part of the story, as I believe it is in LL's books. I don't like to see prolonged, tasteless descriptions of erupting flesh, things being spewed, exploding organs and gushing body fluids. They just upset my stomach.

As for sex scenes, if they are a genuine part of the story and are done in good taste I don't mind. If they are in bad taste or contain violence I can't be bothered with them.

When it comes to westerns I plain did not like, the 'Wilderness' series of books about Mountain Man Nathaniel King by David Thompson come to mind. Now I find the era in which these books take place fascinating, but in my opinion these novels were terribly cliched and predictable, and not very well written. Has anyone else read any of them?

C


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1. "RE: Other Authors"
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   I like Ralph Moody's "Little Britches" series and Terry C. Johnston's "Plainsmen" series.

LD Pederson



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2. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Luke Short, J.T.Edson, Matt Braun, Elmer Kelton, Ernest Haycock, Ralph Compton, Ralph Cotton,Ray Hogan, L.P.Holmes, Cameron Judd. The list goes on and on.


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ChrisEngland
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3. "RE: Other Authors"
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   I like Will Henry (aka Clay Fisher), Matt Braun, Richard S Wheeler, Terry C Johnston, Robert Lewis Taylor, Jack Schaeffer among others.

Favourites by these authors include 'Chiricahua' (Will Henry), 'Two Roads to Guadalupe' and 'The Travels of Jaime McPheeters' (Robert Lewis Taylor), 'Sioux Dawn' & 'Red Cloud's Revenge' (Johnston), 'Monte Walsh' (Scaeffer), 'Second Lives' (Wheeler) & 'One Last Town' (Braun).

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UnknownSackett
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5. "RE: Other Authors"
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   >I like Will Henry (aka Clay Fisher),
>Matt Braun, Richard S Wheeler, Terry C
>Johnston, Robert Lewis Taylor, Jack
>Schaeffer among others.
>
>Favourites by these authors include
>'Chiricahua' (Will Henry), 'Two Roads to
>Guadalupe' and 'The Travels of Jaime
>McPheeters' (Robert Lewis Taylor),
>'Sioux Dawn' & 'Red Cloud's Revenge'
>(Johnston), 'Monte Walsh' (Scaeffer),
>'Second Lives' (Wheeler) & 'One Last
>Town' (Braun).
>
>C


One Last Town by Braun is a great story about an old gunfighter :> You might even recognize the name from some of LL's writings :0)

I forgot about Richard Wheeler he is a good author


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UnknownSackett
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4. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Louis is the best.

I also like
* Elmer Kelton (not really gunslinging but great stories) try The Time It Never Rained; The Man who Rode Midnight; and The Ranger Series (10 books I think)
* Zane Grey try The Heritage of the Desert; Shadow on the Trail; Riders of the Purple Sage (if you have a kindle or an ipad Grey's books can be downloaded for free)
* Clarence Mulford. He created Hopalong Cassidy and the Bar-20. All fun reads
* Max Brand. Brand was killed in WW2. Some of his books are strange, but most of them are good reads
* Luke Short. Short was LL before LL.
* Cameron Judd. Some of his stories drag, but he is a decent western writer
* Matt Bruan
* Ernest Haycox
* Will Henry
* Nelson Nye
* Owen Wister. Virginian should be required reading
* Jack Schaefer. Shane should be required reading
* A B Guthrie. Only a couple of westerns, but very good stories
* Dorothy Johnson. The Queen of Short Stories.
* Fred Grove
* Dee Brown. Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. non fiction.
* Kirby Jonas
* Dan Parkinson. THE CALAMITY TRAIL. super fun story!

I may think of others later, but this is all I can think of off of the top of my head right now


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6. "RE: Other Authors"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-13-12 AT 09:55 AM (Pacific Time)
 
I highly recommend Luke Short.

Elmer Kelton had some good ones as well.

Early in his career Elmore Leonard wrote some great westerns, such as Hombre and Valdez is Coming etc...

TOM


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12. "RE: Other Authors"
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   >I highly recommend Luke Short.
>
>Elmer Kelton had some good ones as well.
>
>Early in his career Elmore Leonard wrote
>some great westerns, such as Hombre and
>Valdez is Coming etc...


I just finished one of the GunSmith books by J.R. Roberts, it was book #55, Hell on Wheels. I found Mr. Roberts to be different from L'Amour in a couple of ways. (1) Roberts gets fairly graphic when talking about interpersonal relationships and (2) This book had far shorter chapters with about 38 in the 180 or so pages.
I did find the book interesting and a good read with multiple places where you could pause and place a marker in the book. Since the chapters were very short there was not near the detailed building of the main characters but enough to make them seem somewhat personal. The only less than positive thing was the graphic nature of some of the passages. I am not a prude by any means, however, I guess I have not read enough from different Western Authors to get a good feel for that aspect of Mr. Robert's Book.
I do plan on getting some more of the GunSmith books as they provide a different feel from the L'Amour books.

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Tennessee Dave
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7. "RE: Other Authors"
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   First off, in your mention of LL's daughters, I think LL's daughter Angelique is by far the prettier of the two. His 'other daughter' is homely and kinda flat chested, and looks more like a boy.LOLLLLLLLL!!!(Ah, we're gonna love you here, M!)You'll fit right in with the rest of us.)

My favorite second auther behind LL is Elmer Kelton, although I liked only about 50% of his work as oppossed to liking at least 95% of LL's.
So many books out there to read; some great western authors, really.
Well, for the most part i can't remember names so much so i will give book names also. 'Shane' was good. Terry Johnston writes the 'Preacher/Mountain man' books, I believe, that were really good. The books about Barnaby Sky are good. I like most of the Ralph Cotton books. Sometimes he underwrites under Ralph Compton's name. And there was a book about the old frontier marshall, Bill Tilghman, I can't remember the books name, but the movie was with Sam Elliot "You Know My name'. The book is better than the movie, although I am a big fan of Sam Elliot's.

Tennessee Dave

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8. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Just noticed this particular thread about "Other Authors".

Other authors who have written stuff I like would include Luke Short, T.V Olsen and Matt Braun. My favorite Matt Braun book Is "Bloody Hand". Larry McMurtry wrote some good Westerns but when he branched out and began to write stories about the earlier lives of the characters in Lonesome Dove, I found many of those stories to be just silly.

"Good thing we ain't all alike" opined one old country gentleman sitting around the country store's stove; "otherwise ye'd all be a wantin' my wife"! After a brief pause, a reply came from the other side of the pot-bellied stove, "Why shucks, if they was all like me, nobody'd have her".

I guess that is why book stores have so many books---it takes a lot to meet the likes of everyone.

LRJ

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9. "Other Authors For (Longrifle)"
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   A man left work one Friday afternoon. Being payday, instead of going home, he stayed out the entire weekend hunting with the boys and spent his entire paycheck. When he finally appeared at home, Sunday night, he was confronted by a very angry wife and was barraged for nearly two hours with a tirade befitting his actions.

Finally, his wife stopped the nagging and simply said to him, "How would you like it if you didn't see me for two or three days?"

To which he replied, "That would be fine with me."

Monday went by and he didn't see his wife. Tuesday and Wednesday came and went with the same results.

Thursday, the swelling went down just enough where he could see her a little out of the corner of his left eye


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Tennessee Dave
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10. "RE: Other Authors For (Longrifle)"
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   Glory be!!!LOLLLL....Talk about put a smile on my face, Doc! Thanks

Tennessee Dave

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11. "RE: Other Authors For (Longrifle)"
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   That is just way too funny and I am adding that swollen eyes story to my own small collection of jokes that I like to tell once in a while.

Also, I realized that I forgot to add the author Lauran Paine who was apparently a contemporary Of LL. He too wrote some good stories.

I find that many writers have maybe one good story in their heads but then they sort of dry up. Just my opinion.

Longrifle Joe


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13. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Permit me to back up a bit. I'll take back my recomendation on Ralph Cotton, I just read two of his written in 2011 and they were NOT very good. Perhaps it was only the older ones that were written under Ralph Compton's name that came out 'okay'.
I don't have the books with me but if you would like, I will get the titles for you. ... But, no, I simply can't give my recomendation after those two stinkers.

Tennessee Dave

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14. "RE: Other Authors"
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   >Permit me to back up a bit. I'll take
>back my recomendation on Ralph Cotton, I
>just read two of his written in 2011 and
>they were NOT very good. Perhaps it was
>only the older ones that were written
>under Ralph Compton's name that came out
>'okay'.
>I don't have the books with me but if
>you would like, I will get the titles
>for you. ... But, no, I simply can't
>give my recomendation after those two
>stinkers.


I wondered about that recommendation


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15. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Hey, I started reading these two that I got from the library and "I" was sure wondering. ... Oh, well.
I get a distinct impression that they were written by someone else, for they were NOT nearly(I say not nearly) as good as those others I'd read.

Tennessee Dave

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16. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Hey Unknown...if you could jog your memory about those books of Ralph Cotton, I'd surely appreciate it. I have a listing of his works, and have read several, so far so good (not near LL tho). Thanks much

Happy Trails ...


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UnknownSackett
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17. "RE: Other Authors"
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   >Hey Unknown...if you could jog your
>memory about those books of Ralph
>Cotton, I'd surely appreciate it. I
>have a listing of his works, and have
>read several, so far so good (not near
>LL tho). Thanks much


I can't remember titles.
I also confuse Ralph Compton and Ralph Cotton.
I do not like brutality described to the ultimate gore. In LL they guy could be shot to pieces and you didn't feel sick after reading it. IN some of these others you have to read about every blood drop. Sick.
Also I do not like sexual scenes. Of course Cotton and Compton were not as bad as Johnstone and them on these


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18. "RE: Other Authors"
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   Phyllis,
I'll get the two bad titles of those I read, if you would like. But, as I said, the others I read were far, far better than these two written in 2011.

Tennessee Dave

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19. "RE: Other Authors"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-22-12 AT 05:20 PM (Pacific Time)
 
I tried Zane Grey and Luke Short one time each and was too spoiled by LL to bite at a definite poorer quality western writing style; along with another time reading Desperate Man by Wayne D. Overhoser (not bad). I picked up a Longarm by Tabor Evans one time and scanned thru it and about to throw up green vile vomit I put it back on the shelf where it belonged unread.
I liked several of Kirby Jonas' western novels and have a few autographed copies.
But I do so enjoy re-reading and listening to LL that I can keep finding new tidbits of knowledge and interesting thoughts, facts, and scenes in each read, audio cassette, and CD so much so that I've never quite strayed far from the master


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20. "RE: Other Authors"
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   With all these 'ghost writers' in the Western genre, it gets confusing trying to figure out who actually wrote what, and it doesn't help that a few of them have similar-sounding names.
One of the sites that I use to help cut thru all the confusion is:

WWW.fantasticfiction.co.uk

It's so easy to use even I can do it. Under 'Browse Authors' just click on the first initial of an author's last name, scroll down to find the author's name (i.e., L'Amour!) and click on that...and you will see all the works written by the author, including the works of that author under aliases, etc. You'll even see a few 'New and Forthcoming Works' listed there! It is a very handy reference. I guarantee if you have not seen this sight before, you'll love it. Very handy.

K Bar 76.


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21. "RE: Other Authors"
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   From Rick: "I picked up a Longarm by Tabor Evans one time and scanned thru it and about to throw up green vile vomit I put it back on the shelf where it belonged unread."

I understand Rick's point. It's too bad that there has to be so much gratutious sex in those novels because the main story line is interesting enough to make for a decent series.

There must be enough fans of this type of the so-called "Adult Western" to support the hundreds of novels written in this series going back over 30 years. Sad commentary.

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22. "RE: Other Authors"
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   I don't mind violence if it is part of the story, as I believe it is in LL's books. I don't like to see prolonged, tasteless descriptions of erupting flesh, things being spewed, exploding organs and gushing body fluids. They just upset my stomach.

As for sex scenes, if they are a genuine part of the story and are done in good taste I don't mind. If they are in bad taste or contain violence I can't be bothered with them.

When it comes to westerns I plain did not like, the 'Wilderness' series of books about Mountain Man Nathaniel King by David Thompson come to mind. Now I find the era in which these books take place fascinating, but in my opinion these novels were terribly cliched and predictable, and not very well written. Has anyone else read any of them?

C


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