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DocKaty
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11. "Who to hire and why? Clarification"
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   Segundo is the spanish word meaning second. As a way of getting three people into my question, I made an assumption of the foreman being away from the herd for awhile and appointing someone to take his place during his absence - thus a Segundo to the foreman.


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 Who to hire and why? [View All], DocKaty, 04:22 PM, 03-18-12, (0)  
Freeman
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1. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Hopalong Cassidy, Mesquite Jenkins and Buck Peters. They were a team. They worked together, fought together and would die together, if necessary. They appeared in one of my favorite LL novels, The Rustlers of West Fork.


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2. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Haven't read enough LL books to weigh in on this yet, but will be interesting to hear some suggestions.

Romans 4:4-5 "Now to the one
who works, his wages are not
counted as a gift but as his
due. And to the one who does
not work but trusts him who
justifies the ungodly, his
faith is counted as
righteousness..."


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ChrisEngland
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3. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   I have my case of LL novels at the side of me as I type this. Might help a bit...

Foreman - I think perhaps Conn Dury from 'Kiowa Trail'. He was someone who knew cattle, and he certainly did a good job for his employer Kate Lundy.

Segundo - Maybe Otis Tom Chancy (who was related to the Sacketts). He was young when LL told his story, and aspired to being is own boss, but might benefit from working with a good foreman.

Bronco Buster - I'd choose Tell Sackett, as he had horse savvy, was tenacious and would see the job through.

C


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4. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Fantasy casting, yeah!
I really couldn't think of all three, but I came up with Tell as the bronc buster so I thought, well, why not, especially since Chris ALSO chose him. That told me that maybe I was on the right track.
So, for the other two how 'bout Cap Rountree for Forman and as Segundo, ol' easy going himself, Orrin. Now that's a winning line-up for you!
But I would've picked Tom Sunday as the Ranch Owner had he not gone bad on himself. That was really sad about Tom, but, that's the way LL called the play, so there you go. ... But, then again, LL had set him up with serious character flaws so I reckon it was a natural conclusion for that particular character.

Cap Rountree, Orrin Sackett, and Tell Sackett.

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Longrifle Joe
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5. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   For my own information please---exactly what is a segundo---I always thought that was the same as a foreman? Since I am not from the "western states" I have only read the term in books and made the assumption that it was maybe Spanish for the foreman's job.

Longrifle Joe


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6. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Yeah, I always used it/thought of it as Forman also, but, in this case, I was thinking it was meant as like a 'lead man' which is usually just under a forman. But, whatever, I'll run with those three in that order.

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DocKaty
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7. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Excerpt from The Log of a Cowboy.

"Now, that's what I call a good cow boss," said Joe Stallings, as our foreman rode away in the twilight; "besides, he used passable good judgment in selecting a segundo.


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Les Down Under
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8. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   I see Segundo being from the same root as second. Therefore a second in charge but whether this was 2 I/C to the Ranch owner or Foreman I never thought about. From this discussion and Doc Katie's statement further down it puts Segundo as 2 I/C to foremen
Les
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9. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   I agree Les, I think it means 2nd in command.

TOM


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10. "RE: Who to hire and why?"
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   Thanks to all---I still think "Segundo" is a kind of slang expression with spanish origins to refer to the foreman, however I readily admit that I truly don't know.

I will need to think a bit more on this subject before making my own picks.

Interesting topic IMO.

LRJ

Longrifle Joe


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DocKaty
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11. "Who to hire and why? Clarification"
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   Segundo is the spanish word meaning second. As a way of getting three people into my question, I made an assumption of the foreman being away from the herd for awhile and appointing someone to take his place during his absence - thus a Segundo to the foreman.


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