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EthanHunt
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"Borden Chantry"
 
   I just bought Borden Chantry a couple a days ago, i aint really got a chance to set dow and read it yet, Just a couple a chapters. I read the part were the barkeep Reardon said the guy who was murdered reminded him of a family he knew off, and was praying that it werent who he thought it was, I was talking to a friend today about it, and i said "I bet its a Sackett, But if you know dont tell me i want to find out in the book" . Well then my friend out of spite, looked it up on the computer and then told me it was Joe Sackett!
I said "Thanks alot pal!". He went and ruint that moment for me hahaha

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Tennessee Dave
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1. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Friends will be friends, albeit sometimes flawed. And some of them, ... you have to watch what you say around them.
Well, it's still a good story, and no one can take that away!

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Tennessee Dave
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2. "P.S."
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   Did anyone else here wish that Tyrell should've had a bigger part in the story???
I mean, LL played it good, I thought, with Chantry handling it 'his own way' as he did in the book, and even insisting to TS in the end that he continue as such. And it was good that LL gave Chantry his own voice in the novel. But, heck, we all like the Sacketts and, well, I reckon we all would've liked for them to always be the star.LOL
But, really, I guess that's not how multiple books with multiple protagonist are written by one author ... is it.
Anywho, LL did it right. ... I do wonder though if LL gave much thought over just how much of a scene to give Tryell.

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Derek
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15. "RE: P.S."
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   I just finished this one today. I really liked it.

You know, TD, I'm glad LL kept Bord the lead who didn't need any help; he could easily been overshadowed by the Sacketts, which LL clearly had no intention of letting happen. Nonetheless, I too was hoping for more of "a Sackett presence" in the story. Tell, Tyrell and Orrin (and maybe Nolan along?) loaded for bear, but staying out of the marshalls way. But, LL always knew what he was doing, and a good story.

P.S. Did everyone else suspect Lang almost from the git? He always popped up when something happened; way too eager to "help."


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3. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   The Sacketts, Chantrys, and Talons are all the same character, just with different names. Even Joe Mack in The Best of the Breed is a modern day Tell Sackett---does and thinks and says exactly the same things Tell or Milo or whomever would have done.

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4. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Well, I for one am able to separate them. ... I suppose it's all in ones imagination. And mine is a humdinger. That's why I wanted to write. Although I can see your point as pretty valid I suppose it's the reader that gives the hero's a different face with intertwined personality of, probably, their own. Quien sabe?
Joe, do you ever see yourself .. riding the range with your trusty horse and six gun, looking out for bandits or Indians? Many's the night reading a LL I have sat beside the campfire cleaning my pistol, but with my rifle close by and fully loaded.......and watching my horses ears.

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Longrifle Joe
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5. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Several things in response to TD---First, I read a lot of escapist stuff and LL is right up there at the top with me. You betcha I have done the campfire with gun close by, and when somebody makes coffee, I often have to do the same.

What I meant by saying all of LL's characters were the same was this: he developed a formula that worked for him. His characters are usually over 6 feet tall, carry their weight in the arms and shoulders, have green eyes, are snake fast with a sixgun, are all good fistfighters and often fight "for the pure joy of it"---usually having as an opponent an enemy who is much larger, heavier and who have often "killed someone with their bare hands". LL's heroes are usually excellent woodsmen, always kill a deer (or elk) by "shooting it in the neck", they like grey pants, shirts, black string neck ties, black boots and perhaps a buckskin jacket in the style of the spanish men. They all can make a bow and arrows overnight and usually manage to kill a "nice buck" with it the next day (or a bighorn sheep).

Most all of LL's characters fit that description except for the women of course, and even then he tries to cast Emily Talon in a similar mold--(go read her description again).

I manage to keep the characters separate in my mind when I read of course, but they all beare a remarkable resemblance to each other.

By now I have read most all the western stories far more times than I can recall but I almost know some of the stories by heart--sort of like the old story about hobo jokes---(since everyone knew all the jokes, they just called a number and everyone laughed), I pick up a book, see the title and can recall the story quite vividly. LL is great escapism for me.

LRJ

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6. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Yeah, all true and all good. ... So true, in fact, that I started smiling at those descriptions. And, yes, great escapism!
But, then again, I smile some more as I think of Tell's homely horse face.
That Louie, he did have it down pat. .. You know, I was reading some of his short stories yesterday and I sure could see some of his older writing style, and, brother, was it different! When he finally did learn and accomplish his seccessful formula, his pick ax sure nuff hit solid gold.

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Longrifle Joe
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7. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Yep, he found a good formula and it struck a chord with me when it comes to the Western stories. Honestly, I was never too crazy about the "Adventure" or "Crime" stories---but that is just me.

Tell seemed to think that he had a face so homely, only his mother could say it was attractive, and "she looked sorta doubtful when she said it". Oh, LL's heroes always had high cheekbones and a "wedge shaped face" as I recall, and they favored flat brimmed black hats.

Like I said, I have read and re-read his stories so many times I almost know them by heart. I looked in my box where I put my paperbacks when I have finished them, and since Christmas, I have read 31 of LL's stories, 11 by Daniel Silva, 4 by Randy Wayne White, 3 by Matt Braun and 4 more by other authors. From the local library I have read 14 full length books, including 4 by J.A. Jance---she is a very good female writer of mysteries. I read the Louisville Newspaper pretty completely every day and skim through the Indianapolis Star every day. I try to watch one major News show every evening but will not name the program except to say it is NOT Fox News LOL.

When you get older and are retired it is easy to do lots of reading if that is what you enjoy. I go to the YMCA every day for about an hour and a half, and I spend at least another hour doing something related to archery or guns (like reloading ammo, building arrows, making strings), and when weather permits, I am out shooting etc.

I am managing to stay busy, but I surely do miss my life partner. She put the finishing touches on a good life for me.

LRJ

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EthanHunt
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8. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Well i finally read the rest of it last night. The perfect western 'who did it' book. I too wish that Tye Sackett had more of a role than just 2 or 3 pages.I also thought it wouldve been great if Tyrel went with Borden to fetch Lang. But Bord didnt need him, still great book one of my new favorites.

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9. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   >Well i finally read the rest of it last
>night. The perfect western 'who did it'
>book. I too wish that Tye Sackett had
>more of a role than just 2 or 3 pages.I
>also thought it wouldve been great if
>Tyrel went with Borden to fetch Lang.
>But Bord didnt need him, still great
>book one of my new favorites.


North to the Rails is somewhat a sequel to Borden Chantry.


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10. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Could "Son of a Wanted Man" also be something of a sequel to Borden Chantry?

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UnknownSackett
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14. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   >Could "Son of a Wanted Man" also be
>something of a sequel to Borden Chantry?


If memory serves me right "Bord and Tye" and both in Son of a Wanted Man, but they were additions. In the original "Trail to Peach Meadow Canyon?" they were not there.

and yes, as far as Bord's life goes it'd be
Borden Chantry
Son of a Wanted Man
North to the Rails


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Tennessee Dave
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11. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   U.S.,
A precursor about his Father, isn't it??? Or is it vice-versa?

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EthanHunt
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12. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   I have North To The Rails, It's about Bord's son Tom aint it? I aint read it yet

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13. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   You know, when I read it I was sort of sad. I felt like I knew Joe. I knew him as a kid when mentioned in Daybreakers, and later in Daybreakers as a teenager.
P

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
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16. "RE: Borden Chantry"
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   Pistol, there was another brother wasn't there - Bob - though he never got to have a story written about him.

C


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