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DocKaty
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04-15-12, 12:11 PM (Pacific Time) |
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"An Interesting Menu"
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After reading hundreds upon hundreds if western novels, I am struck by the awful diet of the characters. Eating bacon, bacon fat, corn dogs, salt pork, and drinking scalding coffee as their culinary fare seems to be conducive to a short, unhealthy life. It seems there was not much milk, vegetables, and fruit available. Also, drinking cheap whiskey and not a lot of water to keep yourself hydrated wasn't the best idea as well. ****************************************** As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point the wrong way. |
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DocKaty, 12:11 PM, 04-15-12, (0)
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Chantry
Member since 10-7-08
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04-15-12, 07:58 PM (Pacific Time) |
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2. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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I've often pondered on the "cowboy diet" and how there seemed to be no health effects like we would have today. However, they worked much more strenuosly than most of us, and tended to die sooner of other problems anyway. They also didn't eat any processed food and most of their diet would be natural, 'organic' food. |
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Hal Hall
Member since 10-11-06
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04-16-12, 09:49 AM (Pacific Time) |
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7. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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You might be interested in this web page: http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodpioneer.html#cowboy It is the Food Timeline FAQ: a lot of interesting food info. There is more on "Cowboy Cooking" than the sample below Cowboy cooking
How can you learn about "Cowboy Recipes" that were served by chuckwagons in the 19th Century American West? There are several books, Web sites, reenactor groups, and museums you can tap for authentic (and adapted) recipes as well as cooking techniques (Dutch Oven, for example). There is even an annual chuck wagon gathering where you can sample the fare for yourself. Are you writing a report for school? Working on a Boy Scout merit badge? Collecting details for a historic novel? Establishing a foodways program in a living history museum? The amount of information you need depends upon your project. The following sources will get you started: Charles Goodnight & Oliver Loving (from Texas) are credited with *inventing* the chuckwagon in 1866 in order to accomodate the gustatory needs of American cowboys: "The nature of the cook's job required that he get up several hours earlier than the cowhands, so he worked longer hours with less sleep. When the outfit was on the move, he had to be at the next appointed camp and have a hot meal ready on time." Cowboy coffee Cowboy biscuits Cowboy beans jerky Cowboy menus for K-12 teachers Recommended reading--your local public librarian can help you find these: Chuck Wagon Cookin': An authentic collection of roundup lore, cowboy humor and more than one hundred old-time recipes, Stella Hughes ...excellent source for modernized recipes Cowboy Culture: A Saga of Five Centuries, David Dary ...food history and social details Eating up the Santa Fe Trail, Sam'l P. Arnold ...original recipes with modern adaptations, history and lore The Old West Baking Book, Lon Walters ...old-time recipes adapted for modern ovens (cowboys enjoyed biscuits on the trail, pies & cakes would have been baked back at the ranch) Up the Trail from Texas, by J. Frank Dobie ...chapter titled "The Cook and his Chuckwagon" which explains what, how, when, where and why Cowboys ate the foods they did. HH |
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TOM
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04-16-12, 04:33 AM (Pacific Time) |
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4. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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"corn dogs" ? I never heard of cowboys eating corn dogs in a western before. TOM |
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DocKaty
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04-16-12, 05:36 AM (Pacific Time) |
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Oooops, corn dogs? I meant corn dodgers. I believe John Wayne in True Grit had a saddlebag full of them?****************************************** As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point the wrong way. |
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Tennessee Dave
Member since 1-2-11
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04-16-12, 12:00 PM (Pacific Time) |
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10. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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But she wasn't having any of them!!!LOLL..... She wanted to strike a light and look at them, but he said "...we ain't lightin' no matches." They were waiting in the rocks, watching from the hilltop, for Lucky Ned Pepper(Robert Duvall)and his gang of cutthroats to arrive at the cabin so they could take them alive or shoot them down. That is STILL one of my favorites movies!OH! I almost forgot to mention that LL wrote about the travelers eating 'pemican'. And LL wrote that the Apaches left a bag of 'pinole' with Tell Sackett when they left him in 'The Sackett Brand', which I am re-reading now. Tennessee Dave "Change is inevitable, growth is optional." Author unknown |
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DocKaty
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04-17-12, 08:34 AM (Pacific Time) |
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18. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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Tastes like ketchup?? ****************************************** As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point the wrong way. |
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DocKaty
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04-17-12, 06:50 AM (Pacific Time) |
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16. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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One explanation: A corndodger, or just dodger, is a ball of cornmeal (and sometimes flour), water (or milk), oil (or lard) and usually sugar. This is deep fried (like a hushpuppy), or baked. They are also known as Johnny Cakes and seem to come out of the Colonial Era. ****************************************** As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point the wrong way. |
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UnknownSackett
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04-19-12, 05:32 PM (Pacific Time) |
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19. "RE: An Interesting Menu"
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If I remember right Elmer Kelton's characters drank a lot of tomato (sp) juice |
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