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Longrifle Joe
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5. "RE: WWII"
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   Hey Bert--

I was born in '41 so came along a little late. However, I do remember a little of what it was like during those years with the rationing and blackouts etc.

You guys did a great job and the rest of us will forever be in your debt. Thanks for your service and your love of America and all her freedoms.

LRJ

Longrifle Joe


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 WWII [View All], MURPHY MBAR, 12:38 PM, 02-26-12, (0)
  •  RE: WWII, JohnnyG, 02-26-12, 03:01 PM, (1)
  •  RE: WWII, DocKaty, 02-26-12, 03:52 PM, (2)
  •  RE: WWII, explore, 02-26-12, 05:23 PM, (3)
  •  RE: WWII, Rifleman, 02-26-12, 10:56 PM, (4)
  • RE: WWII, Longrifle Joe, 02-27-12, 09:15 AM, (5)
    •  RE: WWII, Freeman, 02-27-12, 07:30 PM, (6)
  •  RE: WWII, Hal Hall, 02-28-12, 09:29 AM, (7)
    •  RE: WWII, CampfireCowgirl, 06-09-12, 07:28 PM, (16)
  •  RE: WWII, bobleon, 06-03-12, 01:51 AM, (12)
    •  RE: WWII, stumper, 06-03-12, 04:57 AM, (13)
      •  RE: WWII, ChrisEngland, 06-03-12, 10:01 AM, (14)
      •  RE: WWII, Tennessee Dave, 06-03-12, 12:05 PM, (15)
 
JohnnyG
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1. "RE: WWII"
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   My dad is a WW2 vet.He used to enjoy LL but at 92 his memory, sadly, is failing him. He was in the Army, and was wounded at Attu. I wish he were able to respond, but nowdays he cannot. I will gladly pass any message on to him if you wish.


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Pistolero
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8. "RE: WWII"
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   My dad was in WWII and fought in Italy with the 87th Regt, 10th Mtn Div. Served in Korea as Plt Sgt in "George" Co., 2/23 Infantry Regt, 2nd Inf Div and lost a leg at Kunu Ri Pass in Nov of 1950. He passed away in 1988. I have a two or three stories he told me if you are interested.
Pistolero

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I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings


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Pistolero
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9. "Forgot to add:"
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   My dad's brother, my Uncle David Gilmore Edelen, served in Patton's 3rd Army, in the 9th Infantry Division, in an Artillery Btn.

My mother also served Naval Special Intellegence in Washington, DC, and her brother, my uncle served on Destroyers in the Pacific in the Navy.

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings


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RickAbreu
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10. "RE: Forgot to add:"
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   Dang it Pistol you've been packing heat all around for many years now...of course we all would love to hear some more war stories
If'n you got some time to get comfortable on the stump, stare deep into the campfire, and reach down in there and yarn a few oughta ya


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Pistolero
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11. "RE: Forgot to add:"
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   Thanks man. I can't remember which ones I told or didn't tell. There are only three or four my dad told me and one my uncle David told me. I might think of something.
Pistolero

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings


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DocKaty
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2. "RE: WWII"
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   My late father-in law was a Master Sergeant in the army's supply depot and I have dozens and dozens of army patches that he picked up at war's end. There is a museum dedicated to WW2 veterans in Wolfboro, NH that is well worth a visit if you are ever up this way. They have requested that I donate the patches to them.

http://www.wrightmuseum.org/


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explore
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3. "RE: WWII"
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   I have a Uncle who is about 92 who was General Patton all the way in to Germany, many great stories and amazing man , still is pretty active just a little hard of hearing, his stories along with my Uncles (USMC) from Korea, caused me to go in to the Marine
Corps to serve my country, I will be forever grateful to those gentlemen. Bert Thank you for your service to this great country.
Kevin

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Rifleman
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4. "RE: WWII"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-26-12 AT 11:09 PM (Pacific Time)
 
MURPHY MBAR,

Thank you for your service.

I was in the Army from '84-'88 so I never experienced combat.

I had an uncle (by marriage, not blood relation) who was in North Africa and Italy. He was a POW for a short time in a temporary camp who escaped.

Years later (a couple of decades, I think) he was having nightmares and talking in his sleep and my aunt asked him what was going on. He told her about his escape.

He had gotten hold of a metal spoon. Something like a tablespoon or the large metal spoon that came in with the GI mess kit. He used a rock to get a sharp edge on it. He used the spoon to cut a guard's throat during the breakout.

He was a dedicated husband and father, a leader in his local church, and one of the meekest and most mild-mannered men I've ever known.

"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper


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Longrifle Joe
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5. "RE: WWII"
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   Hey Bert--

I was born in '41 so came along a little late. However, I do remember a little of what it was like during those years with the rationing and blackouts etc.

You guys did a great job and the rest of us will forever be in your debt. Thanks for your service and your love of America and all her freedoms.

LRJ

Longrifle Joe


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Freeman
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6. "RE: WWII"
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   My dad says he remembers during WWII, here in Louisiana on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain, the Army Air Corps was having target practice. One plane would fly by over the lake pulling a large target. Another plane would swoop down and fire live rounds into the target. My dad was on the ground and had to hide behind a tree to avoid being hit by the stray bullets.


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Hal Hall
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7. "RE: WWII"
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   Like Joe, I was born in 1941, but WWII was the war that captured my interest. My brother was in the USAAF in the Solomons, where he went down in 1943. We never knew any details about his death until 5 years ago, when I located an intelligence report that described the mission, mostly thanks to the resources that are migrating to the internet. My Mom and Dad would have given anything even to know that much.

I have one of the WWII ration books that the family kept (along with a "Poll Tax" Dad had for voting.) Interesting artifacts for young people, you would think. Alas, most of the college students I mentioned them to responded with "Poll Tax - what is that?" Only about one-half could immediately tell me what Pearl Harbor was about, and none recognized the idea of "ration books."

HH


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CampfireCowgirl
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16. "RE: WWII"
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   I agree with you in the fact that too little is known about WWII and that time frame, not to mention a lot in history itself.

But for some reason I've always been interested in facts and stories during WW2. I myself stumbled upon a bundle of letters from a young woman who befriended herself to any and all who wanted to write her during the war. Some wrote her a lot of letters, some only one. As I went through them I had a keen sense of not having closure in knowing what happened to them.

I am 26 years old and even though I know a lot more about WW2 than most people my age I never feel like it's enough. I read books on it, I even search out movies made in the late 30's to ,mid 40's to get a sense of what it was like but even that was completely Hollywoodized.
That is why I agree that it's horrible that people my age hardly know what Pearl Harbor signified, and a ration book? I would think that would be a given, but that just goes to show you much college student really aren't learning.

My grandfather was at the tail end of WW2 and was out right before the Korean War, so he wasn't dodging fighter practice bullets or in occupied territory but he was able to tell me a little about his experience in radar. He also told me about seeing the entertainers come to his camp and play for "the guys." I get everything I can out of him, we can't let this stuff just fade. My grandmother tells me a lot about the food shortages and clothing shortages, but she also worked on the family farm so it wasn't even half as bad as it could have been. She told me about her older brothers coming back from war and the way she felt while they were away fighting. She once (because she was so upset her brothers were fighting)stood up in her chair at the movies while everyone was eating their popcorn peacefully waiting for the flick to start and she yelled at the top of her lungs "Kill them dirty ------" and everyone hooted and hollered their support to her.

Sorry if this reply seems a little over the top but coming from the generation that lacks in knowledge of this subject, and worse doesn't reach out to learn, I too am upset and agree with what you said.

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bobleon
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12. "RE: WWII"
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   My father served with Louis in the 3622 Transport company during WWII. He was a corporal and Louis of course was a 2nd Lt. I watched "The Tall Stranger" the other day on TCM and Robert Osborne mentioned that the film was based on a L'Amour novel during his introduction. I remembered my old man mentioning that he knew Louis so that prompted me to go to this website and Wikipedia and look up some information about the man. I called my dad up and told him about some of Louis' experiences from before the war. My dad said he saw Louis every day and spoke to him often, but had no idea Mr. L'Amour had done all those things. He said everybody knew he was a writer and was very intelligent, but frankly never gave the writer thing a second thought. He said Louis was not the type to go telling everybody about himself. He had a photo of Louis with him and some other soldiers, but gave it to a friend years ago. I'll describe some of my father's further recollections in future posts.


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stumper
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13. "RE: WWII"
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   Well let me be the first to welcome you to this forum bobleon you'll find here very informative and fun. Your Dad with LL in Germany , WOW!! Cant wait to read your future posts. What brought you here? and you must be a LL reader? Again Welcom... Stumper

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ChrisEngland
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14. "RE: WWII"
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   I do not have any really close relatives who served in WW2, but my mother's cousin Jack served in that war, and was taken prisoner by the Japanese. When eventually released at the end of the war he was like a skeleton, but at that I guess he was lucky to have survived at all.

C


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Tennessee Dave
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15. "RE: WWII"
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   Bobleon,
I'll second Dave's posted welcome to you!
I hope you're reading LL's work with relish. .. And if you are, don't let any of it drop onto the book!LOL

Tennessee Dave

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