Seems like most of the films these days are for teens and children. Interesting adult films seem few and far between. By adult, I don't mean sex and violence but a good action film with a believable story. Warhorse sounds like it fits the bill.

I've never seen either of the latest Sherlock Holmes movies, but have been tempted. I guess I'm a bit put off by the producers need to make Holmes a pugelist and an action hero as well as brilliant detective. Of course, I'm going by trailers and word of mouth since, as I said, I haven't seen them.

Is this a reflection on the attention span of the movie going public at large, or at least their perception of it? It seems that they're saying that not many people will buy a ticket to see Sherlock Holmes as the cerebral genious (sp?)who solves crimes with logic and nerve without tons of high paced action.

I understand that with the costs of making and distributing a movie they must do what it takes to get the largest number of prople to the box office, but aren't there plenty of people who'd pay to see a smart,well made and performed story? I'd like to think so.

Folks, what say you?

" The only time a man should be dancing is when other men are shooting at his feet. "

LD Pederson

I haven't seen 'Warhorse' yet but i am wondering, those of you that have seen it, did you cry? It looked to me like a cryer movie.
But make no mistake about it, I will see it anyway. I like the hero type movie, be it man, dog, cat, mouse or horse. We NEED our hero's.

Tennessee Dave

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

Why not remake Silence of the Lambs as a musical? I mean, really folks. It's getting a bit silly.!

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Good judgment comes from experience, & a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

Tennessee Dave

That being said, Sherlock Holmes of the literary world was no weakling. In fact Watson describes him as an expert with a sword and he is known to practice fencing.

In addition he is accomplished in the art of hand to hand combat and uses several different weapons including a cane, a stick, a riding crop, and of course his fists. He is an excellent bare-knuckle fighter who is greeted as "the one that has wasted your gifts" by a prize-fighter with whom he fought several rounds in exhibition.

He also admits to knowing a martial art called "Baritsu" which is based on the real life Japanese wrestling system better known as Jujitsu.

Add to that the fact that Watson calls him one of the strongest men he knows, and that Holmes unbends a steel poker which had been bent as a show of strength and we get a somewhat different picture of a very pugilistic Holmes.

I liked the first movie quite a lot and thoroughly enjoyed the second! I'll own them both for my library. I must admit, I think its some of Robert Downey's best work. Then again, I like Iron Man movies too! LOL

P

Btw, I will have to start spelling out my user name as I too just usually end with a "P" for Pistolero! LOL!
Pistolero

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

LD Pederson

Paul, I must admit that the only Holmes book that I've read is Hound of the Baskervilles, therefore I wasn't aware of the extent of his combative skills that you describe. To read that Sherlock was so well rounded physically as well as mentaly makes him, to me, even more interesting.

You and Beau are right about needing to look at movies differently than other forms of medium. I have no problem with Holmes's fighting talents being brought to light in the new movies, but just as Pistol said, this seems almost Bruce Lee or Indiana Jones as far as the pacing goes.

Lastly, I also appreciate WelshBobs point. See remakes with an open mind and treat it as another movie entirely. I thouroughly enjoyed the new True Grit and am one of the few here in camp, at least it seems, who liked the remake of 3:10 to Yuma. Try to resist comparisons and just let the latest version stand or fall on it's own.

" The only time a man should be dancing is when other men are shooting at his feet. "

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

Tennessee Dave

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

Looking at the doco on John Adams there was a significant amount of 'Green Screen' work but this was around European locations and 16th Century Mansions that would have cost the earth to recreate.
Les
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

LD Pederson

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

Oh, the part about the two German brothers was sad too.

I really want to see "The Red Baron" which was filmed in '08 and came out in like 2010. It was filmed in both English and German, and filmed in Germany, Czechoslovakia and somewhere else. I would love to see the German version and just read the subtitles. Makes it more realistic to me to see a movie where they speak their own language.
P

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings

So, here it is again: After an autopsy of Manfred Von Rictohven(The Red Baron) was performed it was proved he was killed by a bullet fired from a ground rifle that went through the side of the plane from left side to right side and through his heart and lungs. Also that the bullit was fired from the rifle of Australian Gunnery Sergeant Cedric Popkin. I saw this on a P.B.S. special documentary.
Just an interesting bit of trivia!

Tennessee Dave

P.S. Yesterday while in Wal-Mart I seen the collection of the Magnificent 7 movies. All 4 movies for $10. Couldn't resist that deal.

What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die dogs--I was a man before I was a king!
---From The Road of Kings